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srxfour писал(а):И да, Q2-это имитация тормозами, разве нет?

точно НЕТ. путаешь с системой ASR.

Точно ДА.
Цитата из оф. презентации Q2:

Making its debut on the Alfa 159 MY 08 (sedan and Sportwagon), Brera MY 08 and Spider MY 08 is the
Electronic Q2. Combining all the advantages of front-wheel drive, enhanced driving pleasure and control, and
guaranteeing some of the advantages typical of an all wheel drive system. As a result, the system is matched perfectly
to the torque capacity and power output, raising yet further the already excellent performance of these models.
The system works as follows. The Electronic Q2 system makes use of the brake system components, which in
turn are controlled in an efficient manner by the ESP control module. The resulting effect is very similar to a limited slip
differential (such as a mechanical Torsen differential). In particular, when accelerating out of a curve, the front wheel
brake calipers apply torque to the internal wheel, so increasing the grip of the wheel. The traction is permanently
balanced in a dynamic manner between the front and rear wheels, according to driving-and road-surface conditions.
The Electronic Q2 is linked exclusively to the front wishbone suspension, allowing for a particularly efficient and sporty
tuning of the vehicle.

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srxfour писал(а):И да, Q2-это имитация тормозами, разве нет?

точно НЕТ. путаешь с системой ASR.

Точно ДА.
Цитата из оф. презентации Q2:

Making its debut on the Alfa 159 MY 08 (sedan and Sportwagon), Brera MY 08 and Spider MY 08 is the
Electronic Q2. Combining all the advantages of front-wheel drive, enhanced driving pleasure and control, and
guaranteeing some of the advantages typical of an all wheel drive system. As a result, the system is matched perfectly
to the torque capacity and power output, raising yet further the already excellent performance of these models.
The system works as follows. The Electronic Q2 system makes use of the brake system components, which in
turn are controlled in an efficient manner by the ESP control module. The resulting effect is very similar to a limited slip
differential (such as a mechanical Torsen differential). In particular, when accelerating out of a curve, the front wheel
brake calipers apply torque to the internal wheel, so increasing the grip of the wheel. The traction is permanently
balanced in a dynamic manner between the front and rear wheels, according to driving-and road-surface conditions.
The Electronic Q2 is linked exclusively to the front wishbone suspension, allowing for a particularly efficient and sporty
tuning of the vehicle.

Ну не знаю, объясните мне разницу между ASR и 'электронным q2'

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omega_sarapul писал(а):точно НЕТ. путаешь с системой ASR.

Точно ДА.
Цитата из оф. презентации Q2:

Making its debut on the Alfa 159 MY 08 (sedan and Sportwagon), Brera MY 08 and Spider MY 08 is the
Electronic Q2. Combining all the advantages of front-wheel drive, enhanced driving pleasure and control, and
guaranteeing some of the advantages typical of an all wheel drive system. As a result, the system is matched perfectly
to the torque capacity and power output, raising yet further the already excellent performance of these models.
The system works as follows. The Electronic Q2 system makes use of the brake system components, which in
turn are controlled in an efficient manner by the ESP control module. The resulting effect is very similar to a limited slip
differential (such as a mechanical Torsen differential). In particular, when accelerating out of a curve, the front wheel
brake calipers apply torque to the internal wheel, so increasing the grip of the wheel. The traction is permanently
balanced in a dynamic manner between the front and rear wheels, according to driving-and road-surface conditions.
The Electronic Q2 is linked exclusively to the front wishbone suspension, allowing for a particularly efficient and sporty
tuning of the vehicle.

Ну не знаю, объясните мне разницу между ASR и 'электронным q2'

Q2 - более изощрённая система. Если ASR тупо душит мотор, то электронная имитация блокировки тормозами прикус цвет переднее колесо с худшим зацепом.

Berluskoni Beluchi писал(а):трем одну и туже байду в писотый раз!



лучше расскажите пилотам формулы адын, как им будет поездаче с полным прыводом на мокрой трассе а еще.... как им будет круче в дождь в повороты вваливать а еще как они быстрее с ним стартовать будут

ak3_07 писал(а):Всетаки, наверное, с лучшим...

Marlos писал(а):

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srxfour писал(а):И да, Q2-это имитация тормозами, разве нет?

точно НЕТ. путаешь с системой ASR.

Точно ДА.
Цитата из оф. презентации Q2:

Making its debut on the Alfa 159 MY 08 (sedan and Sportwagon), Brera MY 08 and Spider MY 08 is the
Electronic Q2. Combining all the advantages of front-wheel drive, enhanced driving pleasure and control, and
guaranteeing some of the advantages typical of an all wheel drive system. As a result, the system is matched perfectly
to the torque capacity and power output, raising yet further the already excellent performance of these models.
The system works as follows. The Electronic Q2 system makes use of the brake system components, which in
turn are controlled in an efficient manner by the ESP control module. The resulting effect is very similar to a limited slip
differential (such as a mechanical Torsen differential). In particular, when accelerating out of a curve, the front wheel
brake calipers apply torque to the internal wheel, so increasing the grip of the wheel. The traction is permanently
balanced in a dynamic manner between the front and rear wheels, according to driving-and road-surface conditions.
The Electronic Q2 is linked exclusively to the front wishbone suspension, allowing for a particularly efficient and sporty
tuning of the vehicle.

Ну не знаю, объясните мне разницу между ASR и 'электронным q2'

TrainAlex писал(а):Так что, q2 бывает электронный, а бывает механический то есть torsen так что ли?

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TrainAlex писал(а):Так что, q2 бывает электронный, а бывает механический то есть torsen так что ли?

Принципиально так. Но в отношении 159/Brera/Spider MY2008, Q2 - только электронный.
Кстати, на полноприводных версиях MY2008 также добавили электронный Q2 на "свободную" заднюю ось.

srxfour писал(а):Обгоны по трассе с заснеженной серединой-отдельная история. Жмешь на газ, выходишь на встречку, ловишь немного хвост и просто прешь. Так же и обратно. Не то, чтобы все было легко и одним пальцем. Далеко не так. Ее нужно ловить, дозировать газ, подруливать, но тачка не халтурит ни разу. Все четко, предсказуемо, она как бы говорит тебе "какого хрена ты делаешь, задолбал херню творить"?! вывозит тебя дальше и ты едешь, а не торчишь жопой из кювета.

Berluskoni Beluchi писал(а):трем одну и туже байду в писотый раз!



лучше расскажите пилотам формулы адын, как им будет поездаче с полным прыводом на мокрой трассе а еще.... как им будет круче в дождь в повороты вваливать а еще как они быстрее с ним стартовать будут